ST HELENS' two MPs stood with the government on a controversial debate about scrapping the two-child benefit cap.

Following Labour's general election victory earlier this month, amendments to the King's Speech were debated in Parliament last night (Tuesday, July 23), in an attempt to make changes to the new government's policies and priorities.

The most controversial of these amendments was a motion submitted by the Scottish National Party calling for the 'two-child benefit cap' to be scrapped.

The cap prevents parents from applying for any additional benefits - such as Universal Credit and child tax credits - if they have more than two children born after April 2017 (when the Conservative policy came into force).

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The government said it would not make 'unfunded promises'The government said it would not make 'unfunded promises' (Image: House of Commons/UK Parliament/PA Wire)
The Labour Party's decision to retain the benefit cap has drawn heavy criticism from child poverty charities, who believe that it fuels child poverty and discriminates against larger families.

Keir Starmer's handling of the vote has also been criticised, as seven Labour MPs who voted against the government have now been suspended from the party for six months.

Labour said it retained the policy as it is "not prepared to make unfunded promises", and has set up a taskforce to tackle child poverty.

In total, the SNP's amendment failed by 363 votes to 103, which highlights the large majority that Labour enjoys in government.

David Baines was elected as the new MP for St Helens North this monthPDavid Baines was elected as the new MP for St Helens North this monthP (Image: David Baines MP)
According to data from the Department for Work and Pensions, the benefit cap is reported to have affected 1.6m children in the year to April 2024.

This includes residents in St Helens, where it has been reported that almost a quarter of the borough's children were living in relative poverty in the year to March 2023.

St Helens' two Labour MPs, Marie Rimmer and the recently-elected David Baines, both voted with the government to keep the two-child benefit cap in place.

Marie Rimmer saidMarie Rimmer said that Labour will tackle child poverty (Image: Marie Rimmer MP)
Speaking about the vote, Labour MP for St Helens South and Whiston, Marie Rimmer, said: “We have inherited one of the worst economic crises after 14 years of Conservative rule. Throughout the election campaign, Labour was clear that we would not make unfunded promises. I was elected on that manifesto commitment, it is important we do not betray that trust.

“Child poverty is a horrific issue that impacts so many in our community. There is no doubt that families are struggling. It is a very complex issue that has no quick fix. I want to see children escape poverty and crucially to never fall back into it.

“Last time Labour was in government, we lifted millions of children out of poverty with a well thought out strategy and we will do it again.

"In his first few weeks in office, Keir Starmer has already set up a cross-government taskforce to tackle child poverty. This taskforce will look at all aspects of tackling child poverty, including the cap.”

Meanwhile, St Helens North MP David Baines said: “The last Labour government lifted children out of poverty and this one will too.

”I am proud to have supported Labour’s King’s Speech which contains measures such as the Children’s Wellbeing Bill which contains numerous measures including free breakfast clubs at every Primary School and action to tackle the cost of school uniforms, and the Employment Rights Bill which will improve pay and protections for millions of working people. 

“Labour is committed to tackling child poverty and its causes, and the Child Poverty Taskforce announced by the Prime Minister is much needed, but so too are the broader measures I supported in vote last night.”

Sir Keir Starmer, meanwhile, vowed to tackle child poverty “with the same vigour” as the last Labour government when challenged over his refusal to immediately axe the two-child benefit cap.

His first Prime Minister’s Questions since entering No 10 came a day after he suspended seven Labour MPs for backing an SNP motion to abolish the welfare limit.

Sir Keir said: “The last Labour government lifted millions of children out of poverty, something we are very, very proud of.

“And this Government will approach the question with the same vigour with our new task force. Already we’ve taken steps: breakfast clubs, abolishing no-fault evictions, decent homes standard, Awaab’s Law, and a plan to make work pay.”

It came in response to a question by SNP Westminster leader Stephen Flynn, who pointed to former prime minister Gordon Brown’s call for Scottish voters to back Labour to end child poverty ahead of the general election.

“Yet, last night, Labour MPs from Scotland were instructed to retain the two-child cap which forces children into poverty,” he said.

Sir Keir was also confronted over the matter by SNP MP Pete Wishart, who asked him: “The headlines are awful for the Prime Minister this morning, poverty campaigners are furious with the Prime Minister, is his honeymoon over before it’s even begun?”

Former shadow chancellor John McDonnell, ex-shadow business secretary Rebecca Long-Bailey, Apsana Begum, Richard Burgon, Ian Byrne, Zarah Sultana and Imran Hussain have been kicked out of the Parliamentary Labour Party over Tuesday night’s Commons rebellion.

Ms Sultana suggested she was the victim of a “macho virility test” and said she “slept well knowing that I took a stand against child poverty” after being handed the six-month suspension.

Asked for her view of the Prime Minister following the action, Coventry South MP Ms Sultana told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “I’m not interested in playing up to this macho virility test that seems to be what people are talking about.

“It’s about the material conditions of 330,000 children living in poverty.

“This isn’t a game. This is about people’s lives.”

She also told ITV’s Good Morning Britain: “I slept well knowing that I took a stand against child poverty that is affecting 4.3 million people in this country and it is the right thing to do and I am glad I did it.”

Although the rebellion was small and the motion comfortably defeated by the Government, opposition to the cap within Labour is not limited to the seven who lost the whip.

Liverpool Riverside MP Kim Johnson said she had voted with the Government “for unity” but warned that the strength of feeling within the party is “undeniable”.

“We moved the dial, the campaign will continue,” she said.

Canterbury Labour MP Rosie Duffield has expressed support for scrapping the cap but said she could not attend Parliament on Tuesday because she had contracted Covid-19.

Matt Wrack, general secretary of the Fire Brigades Union, said: “The seven MPs who voted to scrap the cap spoke for millions of trade union members and many Labour Party members. Keir Starmer must restore the whip to them immediately.”

The cap, introduced in 2015 by then-Conservative chancellor George Osborne, restricts child welfare payments to the first two children born to most families.

More than 40 Labour MPs recorded no vote, with some of those listed spotted in the chamber throughout the day, while others will have had permission to miss the vote.

The decision to remove the whip from the seven who defied the Government over the amendment is an early show of ruthlessness from the new administration, and sends a message that dissent will not be taken lightly.

Defying the Government over the King’s Speech “is a serious matter”, Downing Street said.

A political spokeswoman for Sir Keir told reporters: “We’ve been very clear on our position on the child limit and why we did not commit to removing it both during the campaign and since. And that is because, given the economic situation we’ve inherited, we are very clear that we’re not going to make promises that we can’t keep.

“Now clearly voting against the party’s position on the King’s Speech is a serious matter.”

Asked what the Prime Minister’s mood was following the rebellion, the spokeswoman said he was “focused on delivering the change” the public voted for.

Ahead of the vote, Sir Keir had said there was “no silver bullet” to end child poverty but acknowledged the “passion” of MPs who were considering opposing the continuation of the Tory measure.

Jeremy Corbyn and four other independent MPs have written to the suspended Labour MPs, saying they look forward to working with them and welcoming more voices in Parliament who are “free to speak out against inequality and injustice without fear of repercussion from their party whip”.

In a statement later on Wednesday, Ms Long-Bailey said she is “deeply saddened” to have lost the whip.

She said will continue to work with the Government, and supports its pledges to roll out breakfast clubs and a child poverty task force.

But she added: “As a strict matter of conscience, on this occasion I felt I must speak for my constituents who have no voice in the hope that the Government urgently helps them on this issue.”